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» Topic changed to "2018 Candidate Session May 16 @18:00Pacific/21:00Eastern" by ChanServ. |
16:38 |
| JNRII |
5 Minutes until the LOPSA Live Candidate Session 2018 |
20:56 |
| JNRII |
k, my other clock is slow (how does that happen these days?) |
20:56 |
| JNRII |
3 Minutes until the LOPSA Live Candidate Session 2018, are we still missing Brian? |
20:57 |
| scott5 |
yes. |
20:57 |
| AndreeJacobson |
I'm here... |
21:00 |
| scott5 |
Hi everybody. I’m Scott and I’m currently chairing the leadership committee. |
21:01 |
| scott5 |
Welcome to the 2018 #lopsa-live candidate session. |
21:01 |
| scott5 |
All of our candidates except Brian are present and our moderators are as well. Brian sends his regrets, as he is busy with something else. |
21:01 |
| scott5 |
In order to keep it all under control, there will be rules to follow. To explain the procedure, I'll turn it over to Jim who will be the public face moderating the session tonight. |
21:01 |
| scott5 |
Take it away Jim. |
21:01 |
| JNRII |
Hi, I'm Jim (JNRII)and I'll be one of your moderators tonight. My co-moderator is Bruce (BruceDavis) and the format will be as follows: |
21:02 |
| JNRII |
1) Brief intro from the candidates |
21:02 |
| JNRII |
2) The moderated Q&A |
21:02 |
| JNRII |
We will handle the questions by having anyone with a question direct message Bruce with your question and he will feed me the questions in the order they came in. I'll post your question to the candidates and give them time to answer. |
21:02 |
| JNRII |
The candidates will take turns answering. We will go in alphabetical order, but who starts will be rotated to allow for everyone to have a turn being first. |
21:02 |
| JNRII |
Time to get started with the introductions. I'll prompt the candidates to introduce themselves. |
21:02 |
| JNRII |
First up: Andree Jacobson |
21:02 |
| JNRII |
Andree? |
21:03 |
| AndreeJacobson |
Hey, I'm Andree. Recently moved toCalifornia, got stuck in traffic |
21:03 |
| AndreeJacobson |
So on my phone, please pardon typos :) |
21:04 |
| AndreeJacobson |
Have been at a nonprofit in new Mexico for the last 8 years as a cio working with Los alamos national lab and the local universities. Recently took a job with Tesla, and went from management to engineering. I'm more a sysadmin now than I was before |
21:05 |
| AndreeJacobson |
Plenty of experience in HPC and that's my focus area. Large scale is where it's at with me mostly, a little bit of a jack of all trades in networking, storage, etc... |
21:06 |
| AndreeJacobson |
That's it. Over and out. |
21:06 |
| JNRII |
Thank you Andress |
21:06 |
| JNRII |
Andree (and I'm not on a phone) |
21:06 |
| JNRII |
Next: Mark Lamourine |
21:06 |
| markllama |
Hrrm (I start with that alot) |
21:06 |
| markllama |
I'm currently working at Red Hat on various automation things to do with Jenkins and containers and integration, being a thorn in the side of management and pure developers over installation and administration stuff they create. |
21:07 |
| markllama |
I've been doing stuff like this since the late 80s in various capacities from lab manager, (power ac, space) and DC work and internet infrastructure. Though other people are better experts than me in all of those areas. |
21:08 |
| markllama |
I've benefited from the LOPSA community in all of it's evolutions since that time and I'm free now to try to contribute back to some of the hard work. |
21:09 |
| markllama |
I guess that will suffice to prompt questions. |
21:09 |
| markllama |
Neeeext! |
21:09 |
| JNRII |
and our final candidate, Branson Matheson |
21:10 |
| sandinak |
Hi, I am Branson Matheson (sandinak)... I've been a sysadmin for 30ish years and worked on everything |
21:10 |
| sandinak |
from VAX VMS to FreeBSD, NASA Shuttle projects to networking TSA security checkpints, |
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| sandinak |
Internet search engines to cryptographically secure Cell phones. |
21:10 |
| sandinak |
I have more recently spent alot of my time in operations for Cloud engineering using CMS tools. |
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| sandinak |
I have a strong general background in most areas of systems engineering, networking, security, unix |
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| sandinak |
and hardare. |
21:10 |
| sandinak |
I am a frequent teacher at Security and Sysadmin conferences on topics including Ansible for Operations, |
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| sandinak |
Social Engineering and Security Tools for sysadmins. |
21:10 |
| sandinak |
In my spare time I enjoy working on several open source tools and initiatives .. especially |
21:10 |
| sandinak |
around Show Lighting and DMX. I also play several instruments and love Rush. |
21:10 |
| sandinak |
I have high hops of contributing to LOPSA in the areas of information sharing and community buildin |
21:10 |
| sandinak |
( yes.. i cheated ;) |
21:10 |
| markllama |
snorks |
21:10 |
| sandinak |
You can see more about me at linkedin.com/in/sandinak .. but I love the work I do and I love sharing my knowledge |
21:10 |
| sandinak |
EOF |
21:11 |
| JNRII |
NO questions so far? Please, message Bruce |
21:11 |
| BruceDavis |
I am anxiously awaiting to hear your questions |
21:11 |
| JNRII |
Noone asks, you get mine :}, guess I can ask one. How do we grow LOPSA as the role of SYSAdmin evolves? |
21:12 |
| markllama |
Should we ask each other contrived questions or concede defeat? This was my idea so I feel a bit responsible. |
21:12 |
| JNRII |
Andree, You first please. |
21:12 |
| AndreeJacobson |
Ok. So outreach is thr way to go. |
21:13 |
| cat-xeger |
I think it's a great idea to at least do some sort of intros, and I'm sorry to be too fried to think of questions. |
21:13 |
| AndreeJacobson |
I really like the mentoring program and would likebto see it grow strong |
21:14 |
| markllama |
I'm really not sure. We've tried lots of things over the years. We probably need to keep doing those things. |
21:14 |
| markllama |
get people identifying as "sysadmin" and get them talking to each other and pointing back to LOPSA as a place. |
21:14 |
| markllama |
keep doing it. |
21:14 |
| JNRII |
Branson? |
21:15 |
| sandinak |
I think that sysadmin as an art has like everything else evolved already and continues to change as |
21:15 |
| sandinak |
new capabilities, softare and tooling come online. I think the mentor program works .. but has a |
21:15 |
| sandinak |
limited scope ( only so many mentors for .. ahem so many mentees ). I like the idea of LOPSA perhaps |
21:15 |
| sandinak |
starting to build a stronger body of knowledge that can evolve directly into instruction either |
21:15 |
| sandinak |
via screen casts/vidoes or in person. |
21:15 |
| sandinak |
cheated again |
21:15 |
| JNRII |
k, we have questions starting |
21:16 |
| sandinak |
but I mean that sincerely.. LOPSA has struggled with membership I think more because the value proposition |
21:16 |
| JNRII |
This one, from sandinak: Why do the candidates want to be part of LOPSA |
21:16 |
| JNRII |
Mark, you first please. |
21:16 |
| sandinak |
to be effective we must be lucrative to the potential members .. and I think that means bringing up to date and current training to the front. |
21:16 |
| markllama |
Hehe. Umm. LOPSA are my people. they're the community that has supported me and been there when I had questions or needed to bounce ideas, learn things, lean on support. |
21:17 |
| JNRII |
Andree? |
21:17 |
| markllama |
I'd like to think there are a half dozen or more people who are now members who feel welcome because I personally invited them. |
21:17 |
| markllama |
and I want to make sure that there's a place for them when they find us |
21:18 |
| AndreeJacobson |
When i was first introduced to LOPSA at a LISA conference, I immediately identifed with the crowd. Great folks. Lots of talent. |
21:18 |
| AndreeJacobson |
A place where its ok to be us, but also have a group of people whonunderstand *exactly* what you are going through on a day to day basis. |
21:18 |
| AndreeJacobson |
Other folks don't really get this, sysadmining is easy... And fast, takes no time, and is free... :) |
21:19 |
| sandinak |
looks at AndreeJacobson |
21:19 |
| AndreeJacobson |
We know we do it for the fun of it, and being around people who know that, is worth a lot to me |
21:20 |
| markllama |
kinda wonders too. |
21:20 |
| markllama |
listens |
21:20 |
| JNRII |
k, we have a question From: <atsaloli> Any ideas for engaging with academia? What can you do to help LOPSA engage with academia? (As a board member.) |
21:20 |
| AndreeJacobson |
I could go on and on, but it would be repetitive. |
21:20 |
| JNRII |
Branson, would you start this question please. |
21:20 |
| sandinak |
I wanted to answer the alst one if I may cause I did ask it |
21:21 |
| JNRII |
Sorry, thought you did, go ahead. |
21:21 |
| sandinak |
So I have been a part of LISA and LOPSA on and off over the years and supported it because of my dedication to the craft .. and because of the great things they produced. |
21:22 |
| sandinak |
I was asked once before to join the board and didnt' because I didnt' have a clear vision .. this time I did .. and mostly that i think because of the fairly large evolution |
21:22 |
| sandinak |
going on in our craft .. LOPSA can be the leader in how people evolve .. AND still support joe-bag-o-donuts sysadmin that still has a rack of servers in a community bank. |
21:23 |
| sandinak |
that's one thing I see is us stretching across a larger swath .. so I wanted to help fill new ideas .. and backfill old ones. |
21:23 |
| sandinak |
As far as engaging with academia .. I think that if we can start to gather the right information about what our members are facing as challenges |
21:24 |
| sandinak |
both in new associates coming from college .. and as tools and systems evolve.. we can bring that info to academia and partner with them to start addressing those challenges |
21:24 |
| sandinak |
EOF |
21:24 |
| AndreeJacobson |
So, academia is a beast. They (traditional cs/ce/ee programs) don't want to teach sysadmin because its not science. They way to engage them is to find colleges that DO teach sysadmin / network admin, and to engage in their outreach efforts. If im elected, I would not mind being part of the team (i.e., just me) that does some of this. EOT |
21:24 |
| JNRII |
Mark? |
21:25 |
| AndreeJacobson |
Yeah @sandinak i can cheat too... |
21:25 |
| sandinak |
HA! |
21:25 |
| markllama |
We actually have one example of "engage with academia" in Nicole Forsgren's (sp?) work |
21:25 |
| sandinak |
definately .. and SESA |
21:25 |
| markllama |
Understanding not the tech which moves too fast, but the human side, how the tech interacts with people, how people learn and work with systems. Those things change slower and and subject to study by people who aren't mathematicians and engineers |
21:26 |
| markllama |
Study sysadmin. as a task |
21:26 |
| markllama |
THEN you can try to do things better. |
21:27 |
| markllama |
now how to get the right people interested and putting in the resources... we have to talk to academics. |
21:27 |
| markllama |
fin |
21:27 |
| JNRII |
k, From Bruce: How do you see LOPSA gaining credibility and recognition outside of the IT community? |
21:27 |
| JNRII |
Andree, please start |
21:27 |
| AndreeJacobson |
Well, we need communication, and insiders... One problem is often thatbuts hard for the sysadmin (often stuck away in a basement somewhere) to talk to the people in leadership roles... |
21:29 |
| AndreeJacobson |
How do you explain, that having warranty on a storage areay you are maintaining is important... If it costs moneyz and there are none. |
21:29 |
| AndreeJacobson |
I'd like to trybto find somefolks that have moved from lowly admins jnto higher positions and get their perspective. |
21:30 |
| AndreeJacobson |
Eot |
21:30 |
| JNRII |
Mark? |
21:30 |
| markllama |
This is the same question we've been asking for a couple of decades. I don't have an answer, except to keep doing what we're doing (which is often trying new things or the same things again) and I don't think trying again is a bad thing |
21:31 |
| markllama |
people change, times change, you never know, you might find the right person, place, hook. |
21:32 |
| markllama |
I'm game to try or re-try things on the group's behalf |
21:32 |
| markllama |
anyone want to re-do "A Day In The Life"? |
21:32 |
| sandinak |
Only if I get to be Simon. |
21:33 |
| markllama |
(didn't think so, but the T-shirt was awesome) |
21:33 |
| markllama |
next? |
21:33 |
| JNRII |
Branson, the floor is yours. |
21:33 |
| sandinak |
Guess that's mee |
21:33 |
| sandinak |
So .. the answer to this question is predicated on scope |
21:33 |
| sandinak |
if you're talking w/in an organization that benefits from sysadmins ( eg .. a business, school, etc.. ) then LOPSA needs to have a value proposition for the org |
21:34 |
| sandinak |
that means as mentioned. .. training .. not just on tools and services that an org can benefit directly from |
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